tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post7203553676327065365..comments2023-10-28T11:11:58.342+01:00Comments on Opinionated Beyond My Education: Bias: It Needs Axed.Opinionated More Than Educated...http://www.blogger.com/profile/03511100520723116286noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-55925437801538639852009-10-05T16:32:45.754+01:002009-10-05T16:32:45.754+01:00"I highly doubt anyone from the beeb has ever..."I highly doubt anyone from the beeb has ever tried to engage the BBBC mob in conversation"<br /><br />There was. Nick Reynolds did, famously so - http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/my-friends-at-biased-bbc/<br /><br />And a fellow (or so the conspiracy had it - fellows) called "John Reith" used to post quite dry, factual rebuttals of some of the claims and engage. He got fairly regular abuse, and left shortly after Vance arrived when he realised that engagement was a bit pointless because David Vance had no interest in learning and no knowledge of the business of journalism. And that the mouthbreathers Vance attracted saw a BBC person in their midst as not much better than a cockroach, to be treated accordingly.<br /><br />In B-BBC mythmaking, Reith "fled", having been thoroughly fisked. In reality, he pulled Vance's underpants down enough times that the wee man got rather upset and started throwing his weight about.Ex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-44792475064271972132009-10-05T15:29:41.836+01:002009-10-05T15:29:41.836+01:00DAVE - I have to be honest here, I have posted on ...DAVE - I have to be honest here, I have posted on B-BBC in the past, pretending to be from the BBC, and they lapped it up. I highly doubt anyone from the beeb has ever tried to engage the BBBC mob in conversation. There was one time where I claimed to be the BBC's complaints guy (forget the name, but they all had a rant about him for a while). My posts were so tounge in cheek (I thought) that I wouldn't fool them, but I clearly did. I suppose in hindsight it just confirmed the sense of self importance there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-32769016881592732832009-10-05T14:06:14.895+01:002009-10-05T14:06:14.895+01:00Oh you're right. But in the early days I think...Oh you're right. But in the early days I think BBC staff were interested in B-BBC and certainly wanted to engage. Now there really is no point.<br />Only today LLew is saying the BBC One of clock devoted more time to Labour that the Tories on the first day of their conference. I've just checked and both editions spent exactly the same amount of time on each party.<br />But there's no point posting facts. You just get shouted down.<br />I "die inside" because it's such an incoherent, rambling shadow of it's former self. And I think a bit of monitoring of the BBC is actually a healthy thing.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-72202945148741968562009-10-05T11:32:02.984+01:002009-10-05T11:32:02.984+01:00Dave - really?
David Vance is a gift to supporter...Dave - really?<br /><br />David Vance is a gift to supporters of the BBC, and his stewardship of the site is a PR gift.<br /><br />It's always been a bit of a dog's dinner, albeit in better shape than now. But back in the day it managed a modicum of debate in the comments and restraint in the posts even if it was quite lightweight on proof for bias.<br /><br />But now - David Vance has destroyed much of what limited credibility it had. It still matters to the extent that someone could read the blog and take it at face value. But for all its pretentions at being the leading catalogue of BBC bias it's another blah blah megaphone catering to a pretty niche audience.Ex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-11436482260366751102009-10-05T10:42:55.702+01:002009-10-05T10:42:55.702+01:00"UNLIKE THE BBC you aren't forced on [ain..."UNLIKE THE BBC you aren't forced on [ain of death to pay for his screeds"<br /><br />Maybe not, but everytime I read his posts a little bit of me dies insideDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-68247506063237550612009-10-05T10:25:13.853+01:002009-10-05T10:25:13.853+01:00It doesn't work at all for me.
I've alway...It doesn't work at all for me.<br /><br />I've always seen David more as a Number Two.<br /><br />/Martin Alert.Ex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-2202283964403329532009-10-05T10:18:41.121+01:002009-10-05T10:18:41.121+01:00Couldn't help but notice one of Mr Vance's...Couldn't help but notice one of Mr Vance's postings on A Tangled Web today:<br /><br /><i>the first commandment at the court of Obama is that criticism must not broached lest it irritate The One.</i><br /><br />The wonderful thing about that sentence is that if you replace the word Obama with David Vance, it still works. How amazing is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-42324388353175339872009-10-05T10:03:25.361+01:002009-10-05T10:03:25.361+01:00Of course not. In the parallel universe of a consp...Of course not. In the parallel universe of a conspiracy theorist, everyone who disagrees with you has an agenda, uses sockpuppets and other nefarious tools to blur reality, and is typically part of a much wider conspiracy.<br /><br />Hence David Vance's neat division of the world into two neat groups:<br /><br />The moral right: for whom the normal rules of civil engagement are to be suspended because the cunning of the enemy requires a degree of ruthlessness.<br /><br />The rest: typically trolls and beeboids. At any rate, if all else fails remind everyone that UNLIKE THE BBC you aren't forced on pain of death to pay for his screeds.Ex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-50727632552702637662009-10-05T09:57:22.217+01:002009-10-05T09:57:22.217+01:00Azir accused him on his blog of being prejudiced, ...Azir accused him on his blog of being prejudiced, making the same point that OMTE did. Given that in Vance-World, there is <i>no</i> possibility of two unconnected people reading his posts and concluding that he is a frothing loon, it therefore follows that the two must be connectedthe_voice_of_reasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10179007944478552588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-66087280797967940592009-10-05T09:51:19.822+01:002009-10-05T09:51:19.822+01:00Im confused as to why David is wondering if you ha...Im confused as to why David is wondering if you have a cousin called Azir.<br /><br />Perhaps he bumped into some bloke in the pub called Azir who reckons he knows you.<br /><br />Or perhaps hes making a very crude racist assumption.<br /><br />I know which one I am swaying towards.Serotoninnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-8946181472658555312009-10-05T08:56:09.205+01:002009-10-05T08:56:09.205+01:00Oh, for god's sake. Don't you people get i...Oh, for god's sake. Don't you people get it?<br /><br />When you have moral right on your side, the truth is incidental to the greater good.<br /><br />David Vance is a valiant warrior against the cancer of soft liberal values in our society.<br /><br />Why do you hate the UK?<br /><br />Ahem.ex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-18070069514352894562009-10-04T19:15:23.880+01:002009-10-04T19:15:23.880+01:00Well there goes the neighbourhood.Well there goes the neighbourhood.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-15932255771521794082009-10-04T17:13:18.092+01:002009-10-04T17:13:18.092+01:00David,
At a loss to understand my mistake re bene...David,<br /><br />At a loss to understand my mistake re benefitted. Feel free to provide guidance.<br /><br />Nevertheless, honoured to have you aboard. Hope you feel able to join in.<br /><br />PS: No cousin of that name. Azir fact.Opinionated More Than Educated...https://www.blogger.com/profile/03511100520723116286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-39961791286752102102009-10-04T16:41:06.508+01:002009-10-04T16:41:06.508+01:00David Vance,
How good to see you here in person (...David Vance,<br /><br />How good to see you here in person (we know you check in regularly). Indeed it has gained quite a following. <br /><br />Do keep on providing the entertainment.The Vancinatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-84790923996707769712009-10-04T15:58:30.495+01:002009-10-04T15:58:30.495+01:00What a fine blog you have, Troll. And all your own...What a fine blog you have, Troll. And all your own work.<br /><br />It seems almost to cruel to point out that there might be a slight grammatical issue on the use of benefitted.....then again.<br /><br />I wonder if you have a cousin called Azir? Then again.....David Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09148286371942335280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7537728356839693093.post-88478984226860751152009-10-04T14:19:22.377+01:002009-10-04T14:19:22.377+01:00Could this be an example of race-hustling, creatin...Could this be an example of <i>race-hustling</i>, creating the illusion of a racial issue where none exists, for political (or financial) gain?<br /><br />Now, who is it who warns us so diligently against race-hustlers? Why, yes - David Vance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com